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== Question for you ==

Sorry for messing your nice blanked talk page, but could you take a look at Talk:Bagram Air Base and read through the move requests. Let me know what you think about all that. Thanks -JE (Let's talk) (My contribs) 17:06, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

typos fixedintroduced: Autorità→Authorità

That was part of your edit summary here. But Autorità (meaning authority) is the correct spelling. Could you remove the ‘correction’ from your list, please? Thanks for making the others though! Ian Spackman (talk) 14:37, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Typo fixing

I saw you've fixed a tonne of typos on pages i created (the LGBT mythology ones). Many thanks! For some reason i get typed words wrong, even when i know how to write them by hand - every so often i AWB all the articles i have watchlisted, but there are always more. Thanks again.YobMod 11:24, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Ars moriendi

I've just reinstated the perfectly valid redirect to this. I seem to remember there was some issue years ago with a rock group of the same name, but don't you look at these things before you delete? Johnbod (talk) 12:53, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Or you. I was just going by your edit summary, since the page had been deleted. Johnbod (talk) 13:06, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Umi Monogatari: Anata ga Ite Kureta Koto


Just to inform you that Umi Monogatari ~Anata ga Ite Kureta Koto~ title is incorrect for the English wikipedia. The correct title is Umi Monogatari: Anata ga Ite Kureta Koto. For details see MOS:JAPAN#Titles_of_books_and_other_media.

Thanks. --KrebMarkt 13:23, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Help Appreciated

Thanks for categorizing the article. I was having difficulty doing so. Your help is appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lisyamit (talk • contribs) 11:40, 23 August 2009 (UTC)


Thanks for spell correction in SMVS page. Ksoni (talk) 05:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

What to do with Tyciol's redirects

Hello Xezbeth. At User:Ryulong/Sandbox/Redirects there is a list of some redirects created by User talk:Tyciol, who is currently blocked. As I go down the list, I notice that you've already started deleting some of the listed ones as WP:CSD#R3. Do you think the rules allow me to go ahead and do the same for the ones I don't think should be kept? I was concerned that a WP:RFD might have to be followed, but I would do the speedies if policy allows that. My work list is at User:Ryulong/Sandbox/Redir1. Thanks for any opinion on this. EdJohnston (talk) 14:02, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I noticed you deleted Adrena, why is it implausible that someone would type that name in looking for the Kim Possible villain named Adrena Lynn? It's a fictional first name. If it is additionally a plausible redirect for other terms then it would make sense to identify at least one in the description as a reason for why it should not redirect to this villain, but in that case I would prefer to be notified about the objection because in that case I feel obligated to upgrade it into a disambiguation page for both the super villainess and other potential uses. In the very least if you could sign next to the ones you have tagged as Ed and Aditya have been doing it would be helpful as I would be able to collectively address your concerns with the redirect and be able to explain the specific meaning for it. Also Higurei, a shortened portmanteau referring to Higurashi no naku koro ni Rei. It looks like there's much to check. Tyciol (talk) 00:54, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
I completely disagree about Adrena: it being an uncommon name is all the more reason to direct it to the character with that name. Since her name isn't actually spelled out on the show, people may not know how to spell it and simply type out the first name (not knowing if it is 'Lynn' or 'Lin', etc) and can more easily find her that way. When I redirected red links I made every effort to send them to an article which had SOMETHING to do with it. In some cases there were other equally valid articles and in those cases I was mistaken to do so, as Ryu'n co helped me understand in the last month, creating an article for that person is what should be done in that case. I don't appreciate the 'not in their right mind' insult, Higurei is a completely logical abbreviation for the series (simialar to say, Chocosis.
It being a portmanteau was just a happy coincidence: it's the first 2 syllables of Higurashi, just like Hirei would be with the first. These could be abbreviations for other series too, if people think of how it could refer to other things they could definitely disambiguate them. I will feel obligated to critique every deletion I've got issue with: if deletions were more thoroughly explained in the first place (or were politely consulted with first) then there wouldn't be a need for it. When people C+P the same reason for everything they do even though it's different things and don't notify the creator to allow a chance for explanation then they do feel obligated to voice up. This is the reason why plausibility needs to be more throughly explained in the rules, it's pretty much just personal interpretation on everyone's part here, including mine. Tyciol (talk) 07:03, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Deleted Ropwu

Hey dude, I saw you deleted my Ropwu website history and information page, you said it was advertising, and it was not that. it was just for information on my website, including history. Could you please see about getting it back up?

Santa22622 (talk) 10:19, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Dog sex

The article Dog sex is under attack! Could you weigh in on it's talk page or at Talk:Canine_reproduction about the fate of the redirect? Thanks!Peter Napkin Dance Party (talk) 18:20, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

An ANI was raised against User:Ckatz, the admin who was reverting the change. This problem came up and ther is now an ANI within an ANI!

  • Reverting cited material[1]
  • Dog sex reversion behaviour[2]

HarryAlffa (talk) 15:44, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Question for user

I was wondering if you are able to help me. I am interested in viewing the now deleted article for Matt mutino. I don't want to re publish it or anything, just when talking about his page with family and friends, they all wanted to read it, knowing its lack of credibility, just because we actually know Matt. If this is at all possible, that would be great. Thanks. Dbowlin17 (talk) 16:57, 1 January 2010 (UTC)Dbowlin17

Church of Reality

Hi there. Back in 2005 you discussed this article at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Church of Reality. The article has since been recreated, and I have re-nominated it for deletion. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Church of Reality (2nd nomination). Robofish (talk) 01:39, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

'Albums considered the greatest ever' nominated for deletion

I saw you made an edit on the article Albums considered the greatest ever so I thought it'd interest you that it's being nominated for deletion. It'd be great if you'd give your two cent here since I'm the only one so far who wants the article to stay. The only other people involved in the discussion are deletion-happy administrators, which I think is a bit unfair. So I'd really appreciate it if you gave some insight. Thank you. Best, Geeky Randy (talk) 20:36, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Chandarana Records


Please can you make an article on Chandarana Records - a studio and producer of many labels such as Saba Saba and others. Their music still is well remembered in Kenya, and spread throughout Africa. See also Collela Mazee and these articles: [3][4][5][6][7][8]

Thankyou for your help.

re: novero

hi, i saw you deleted the novero page, i created. i am re-adding with references. please take a look at it when you have a moment, and let me know what else i can do to get it approved.

thanks. -AS

Baba Mountain

Hi, now that Baba Mountain is a disambiguation page, could you help clean up the links that now point to a disambig per WP:FIXDABLINKS? Thanks, --JaGatalk 20:49, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Preference (economics)

Xezbeth, thanks for your fixes on the entry!. I was the one who made the page move, but apparently it was not done right. I'll be more careful the next time.--Forich (talk) 15:26, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Spelling fix

Thanks for the correction on the Phoebe Kreutz page! :) Billkwando (talk) 22:40, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much Xezbeth for fixing and correcting the Michel Mimran page! Think88 (talk)

Thanks for fixing major histocompatibility complex. --Dawn08 (talk) 22:40, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Steve White (Sailor)


I am a little puzzled by your deletion of the material that I posted yesterday under the heading of Steve White (Sailor)

Steve White (Steven Geoffrey William White) is my son. The material that I posted was developed by the family as a statement of Steve's achievements and background and has been used in several places including the English website. As such, I believe the family holds the copyright to the material.

If you wish to verify the authenticity directly with Steve, he can be contacted by e-mail at [email protected], by phone at 07931 642 994 (in England) or skype whiteoceanracing. Alternatively, if you can let me know your E-Mail address, I will have him contact you directly.

We would just like to know what we need to do to get him a Wikipedia entry.

C. Mark White [email protected] Phone 860-621-3779 (USA) Further to the above, we have managed to find your Declaration for Consent page and will be sending suitable text to your OTRS e-mail address.

C. Mark White

—Preceding unsigned comment added by White Ocean Racing (talk • contribs) 13:32, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Next (2006 film) listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Next (2006 film). Since you had some involvement with the Next (2006 film) redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). JaGatalk 22:16, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

L98 Cadet Rifle

Can you undo what have you done as you have just reverted back to the inaccurate outdated article. The reason I moved the articles to two separate articles is that the L98A1 is now obsolete and has been replaced by the L98A2 rifle since 2009. Therefore the old article was now anachronistic, and needed to be:

a) entirely rewritten


b) disambiguated so that the two rifles are clearly distinguished.

All you have done is redirect to the original confused article. I am annoyed because if you had taken the time, or left a note on my talk page to actually discuss this instead of just moving them, the issue would have been a moot point. Common sense might have suggested that, the action which I undertook was done for a good reason, remember the old assumption of good faith. Besides if you had even been bothered to read both articles you would see that the tense and emphasis in the L98A1 article had been corrected to reflect that fact that this rifle is now obsolete.

I don't know what you did but the article is now trapped in a redirect loop that reverts L98 Cadet Rifle - which the L98A1 was, but is not now! Do you want to undo what you did? At least I am trying to edit the articles to make them clearer and more understandable. Or if you are not happy with what I did, and prefer the inferior article, may I suggest you edit yourself? Rewind44 (talk) 13:17, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Please help with edits to Gordon Shepherd pages

Although I have been signed up for years I am a new user because I have not added much until last week. We were working on the Gordon Shepherd wiki entry and you changed the entry Gordon Shepherd (neuroscientist) back to what it was so I am requesting that our work is restored.

Some of the complexity of the Gordon Shepherd pages

is that Gordon M Shepherd here at Yale has a son, Gordon MG Shepherd at Northwestern so we carefully arranged a hierarchy of disambiguation where the Gordon Shepherd page lists the two Gordon Shepherd's (see the Tom Morse October 1st version on the history on that [[page:]] ) and we created new pages Gordon M Shepherd and Gordon MG Shepherd which you have deleted.

Please help! Thanks for your time and efforts. Tom Morse (talk) 20:56, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of PeaceDayTV

Dear Xezbeth, would you please explain why you decided that the entry for the PeaceDayTV page should be deleted as an advertisement and reinstate it, if you view thew United Nations site here you will see the Peace Day Global Broadcast is part of their official navigation on the UN Peace Day site. The PeaceDayTV channel is a non-profit outreach project of a ngo, there is nothing to "advertise". It's participants of content include UN World Food Programme, Millennium Campaign, UN Foundation, WE Campaign, Nothing But Nets, Malaria No More, Peace One Day,, World Economic Forum, UNICEF, Culture of Peace, CARE, and over 100 other respected humanitarian organizations. The channel does not carry commercial content, it provides a means for these humanitarian groups to get their message out at no charge, hence it is not advertising. If the page needs to re-written due to the way it was written we will do so, please advise on this point. Perhaps I should create a page called Peace Day Global Broadcast which is specific to the September 21st annual International Day of Peace event, it has become a significant enough event that the United Nations has adopted to make it a page on their site, as well be the focus of the site,, site, site, and over 1,000 other places who carry this event. It is a significant part of the International Peace Day activities. I thank you for your time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peacedaytv (talk • contribs) 16:07, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Your additions to The Enough Moment

Thank You!

Was going to finish last night and forgot!

Appreciative! Nell 16:48, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Your change to Upstream

You recently categorized Upstream as a disambiguation page. Please note that Upstream has a primary topic, which the first sentence in Upstream describes. Please therefore add the tag "(disambiguation)" to the title of the page in accordance with WP:DABNAME. The new title should be "Upstream (disambiguation)". This renaming is necessary because a bot is changing other articles by redirecting to "Source (river or stream)" links that were intended to direct readers only to Upstream. "Source (river or stream)" is a link within the first sentence of Upstream. Thank you. Corker1 (talk) 00:07, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Kashmir Observer

Could you please undelete this article? We have received OTRS permission for it which I can add as soon as it is restored. VernoWhitney (talk) 14:54, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Live at the Chapel for deletion

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You left out one.

On the article Ice cube, (it's quite obvious why you removed the username, but) an offensive username is still visible until your own edit summary is redacted. mechamind90 07:22, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Spindle (computer)

Information.svg An article that you have been involved in editing, Spindle (computer) , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. § Music Sorter § (talk) 05:44, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

wilawan apinyapong

You deleted this entry on 11th October 2010. I feel that the subject is of enough importance for the entry to be reinstated. She is, and has been, the captain of the Thailand women's volleyball team since 2007, and is arguably their most influential player. Since she became the captain, Thailand has won its first ever Asian championship by defeating China in 2009. Wilawan has also led her club side to two succesive Asian club championships. chriskorat — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chriskorat (talk • contribs) 05:02, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Gary Speed

Hello, I noticed that you created this article. Did you imagine that he would end up like this?-- (talk) 20:19, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

MSU Interview

Dear Xezbeth,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:

  • Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
  • Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
  • All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
  • All interviews will be completely voluntary. You are under no obligation to say yes to an interview, and can say no and stop or leave the interview at any time.
  • The entire interview process is being overseen by MSU's institutional review board (ethics review). This means that all questions have been approved by the university and all students have been trained how to conduct interviews ethically and properly.

Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at [email protected] (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your name HERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at [email protected] I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.


Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) 07:26, 12 February 2012 (UTC) Young June Sah --Yjune.sah (talk) 22:32, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Suspension (punishment)

I like how foreboding this section name is, but it's actually referring to the article. Check out this edit and tell me if you spot something fishy. Smiley.pngOranL (talk) 08:01, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you for your revert. I'm certain this was done in good faith. I have undone this revert since it removed factual information from the character summary of the anime and manga. In both the anime and manga, Rea is subjected to years of abuse by her father. Physical, emotional and sexual. He takes photos of her naked with the pedophilic excuse of "tracking her growth". This may not be popular and may not cast pedophiles in a good light, but removing this information for no reason than "revert" is not helpful. Thanks! (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:39, 8 May 2012 (UTC).

Soil Warrior page deletion


I see that you deleted the page I created on the Soil Warrior due to unambiguous content. Please undelete the page. The Soil Warrior is a piece of tillage equipment and the article contained specific facts about the piece of equipment. If you would like some of the information changed please let me know what should be changed so that the page does not get deleted again.

Thanks Wideopenthinking (talk) 15:21, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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For your prolific work on creating dab pages for surnames!! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 09:40, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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For your recent disambiguation work! Rosiestep (talk) 02:05, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Social is an adjective not a subject

Hi Xezbeth, can you please stop reverting Social and take it to the talk page. As I say there- WP:Wikipedia_is_not_a_dictionary#Handling_problems Sometimes, also, a Wikipedia article will be badly named. Its title will be an adjective or an adverb or an inflection of a verb that isn't a noun. [] For example: "supermassive" is an adjective, and doesn't by itself denote an actual subject. “Supermassive black hole” is an actual subject.

Nomination of Volya for deletion

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A dab that you created: Vasava

Hi, back in August you created a dab for Vasava. I've hit a snag with it and am unsure how to proceed. The Bhil Vasava article should in fact be called Vasava per WP:COMMONNAME and, as far as I can tell, the other entry on the dab (a politician) does not really need to be there. Or, at least, not in the commonname sense. I do realise many Indian people are known by a single name but it seems not to be the case in this instance.

I could create a new article called Vasava people, redirect Bhil Vasava to that and all would work ok but since I cannot see the commonname aspect of the politician, it would be better (says me!) to move the Bhil Vasava to Vasava and stick a hat at the top of both of the articles. What do you think? And, if you agree, how the heck is it done? - Sitush (talk) 13:54, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your doings. I rather think I am going to hit this sort of problem quite a lot over the next few days/weeks. - Sitush (talk) 14:18, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

Recreation of Zappa's Universe

One of the tracks on the album was Steve Vai's first grammy and I'll be sure to properly cite the article and there's a new official project dedicated to Frank Zappa that will make sure the article is of good length and quality. I wanted to create it, but the article said to contact you about it first. Please respond on my page. --Mrmoustache14 (talk) 00:32, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! --Mrmoustache14 (talk) 11:42, 12 December 2012 (UTC)


A disambiguation page with a single surname in it, should not have the surname tag passed through the {{dab}} - now you'll have thousands of pages in the surname category that are not surnames, but disambiguation pages with as few as one person with the surname, without any indication that the surname is notable. And that helps the encyclopedia how? Then we should also send the Category:Place name disambiguation pages merged up with Category:Place names by your same logic. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:19, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Suffice to say, we disagree. Now posing as "surname" articles are a slew of disambiguation pages without any references or necessarily any need to show any notability of the surname. That dumbs down the encyclopedia. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:50, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Category:Robert Rich albums

Category:Robert Rich albums, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Pichpich (talk) 15:29, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

Category:Lucero albums

Category:Lucero albums, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 09:23, 9 January 2013 (UTC)


Apologies for reverting your edit!

Just saw the summary! — MSTR (Chat Me!) 07:47, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

What Blofeld said :-)

A barnstar for you!

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For your ongoing, unstinting prolific work on creating dab pages for... well, just about everything.--Shirt58 (talk) 12:15, 24 January 2013 (UTC)


split - 1) Why? - What is achieved by doing this? 2) What consensus do you have for doing this? 3) Why should I not undo your edits?
Looking forward to reading your reply. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:00, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Surname lists are not disambiguation pages, but set indices as noted in Wikipedia:MOSDAB. Category:Disambiguation pages with surname-holder lists was recently created so I've been using it as an opportunity to clean up old disambiguation pages like this one.
Does splitting it cause some sort of problem? —Xezbeth (talk) 13:12, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Only to people like me who have not yet caught up with the latest policy changes! Thanks for the background!! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:23, 13 February 2013 (UTC)


Please revdel this vandal edit. Zaminamina (talk) 15:41, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Surname holder lists on dabs

Please do no delete the "|surname" parameter from disambiguation templates on disambiguation page that include name holders, even if there is only one such name holder. The name holders are partial title matches, and the list of a single such name holder is still a list of name holders. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:26, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

I need a deleted article

Can you give me the deleted "Project Shrine Maiden" article? (talk) 16:06, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

No, the content at Project Shrine Maiden was a hoax about a non-existent television show. There's nothing worth salvaging. —Xezbeth (talk) 16:30, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
I want it for a fanon PBS Kids wiki that you can put fake shows on. (talk) 18:28, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
I just want to see it and use it for a wiki. Can you give it to me now? (talk) 23:23, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
X, there's this wiki that you can put hoaxes on called "Speedy Deletion Wiki". People moved some of my hoaxes there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:05, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Look, it was about the Touhou Project. I have a "Touhou Nonsense Wiki". Can you give me a copy so I can put it on the wiki? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:09, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Bey (surname)

Hi Xezbeth, Although I don't like to make substantial changes in the articles, I changed both the title and the text of Bey (surname). Because Bey is not a surname in Turkish. (Of course I don't refer to Erich Bey and Richard Bey). Thanks for your understanding. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:45, 27 March 2013 (UTC)


Sorry for not answering earlier. I don't have time to do any research into this particular IP (in fact, I don't have time for Wikipedia at all right now). In my experience, he uses many different IP addresses and only accidentally returns to one of them again (with some exceptions of addresses he uses once per year, maybe when he is visiting somewhere else?). You can check Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sheynhertz-Unbayg/Archive or User:Kusma/Sheynhertz for ranges used in the past. Sometimes it makes sense to do large-scale rangeblocks; he often probably doesn't even notice blocks of individual IP addresses or usernames because he jumps to the next username or IP address after 24 hours anyway. I must say I thank applaud you for doing cleanup work on his pages, it is a thankless and (after a while) rather unfun task, and he hasn't stopped (and only improved a little) despite hundreds of blocks in the last six years. Happy editing, —Kusma (t·c) 12:08, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

A cupcake for you!

Choco-Nut Bake with Meringue Top cropped.jpg Ok, that made me chuckle - merging up to the apes. Nicely done. Here's a cupcake in return. We don't want to offend those apes though! Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 06:49, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Category_talk:American_novelists#RFC_or_not.3F

You are invited to join the discussion at Category_talk:American_novelists#RFC_or_not.3F. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 03:22, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

don't worry about it

I wouldn't worry about getting into revert wars with NM. One very useful thing instead would be (a) go through all of the genre-categories and make sure everyone is in a by-century cat + gender cat as appropriate (b) make sure everyone in the ethnic-novelists cat is in a by-century-cat + genre cat + gender cat as appropriate. There will remain a small cadre of preciously guarded bios in Category:American novelists, this is fine, that can wait a while for the weight of consensus to determine the final outcome. --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 15:18, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

To clarify, it is more important at this point to make sure we don't have people still ghettoized, either by gender or ethnicity, than worry about a few bios that people want to keep in the head cat. Last I looked there was still ghettoization in the ethnic cats, so your help there would help de-ghettoize those writers who had previously been ghettoized. Then, no matter what happens (e.g. merge everything to Category:American novelists or not) the tree is at least in a good state and no-one is ghettoized.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 15:30, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
I didn't think to look at those. The genre subcats too have lots of people without any sort of novelist category. I might even venture into the Category:American writers tree too, probably hundreds in there. —Xezbeth (talk) 15:57, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
For example, this catscan link looks at all african-americans who aren't in the by-century tree - so you can target them for de-ghettoization. The same could be done for any genre or other ethnic cats, and even the Category:American women novelists cat just to make sure no women are ghettoized (shouldn't be, but you never know). Once everyone is in the by-century tree, the same technique can be used to determine which ones *don't* have a gender for example - eg show me all by-century novelists, but that aren't in either women or men sub-cat. But there may be some cases where gender is ambiguous, in which case you shouldn't force it, obviously.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 16:12, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Note: For example, this one [9], you added her to Category:Women writers from New Jersey but neglected to add her to Category:Writers from New Jersey - thus ghettoization - it's easy to miss these - but looks good otherwise what you did on that bio. --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 17:27, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Would those not be an example of over-categorization? Some writers are "from" more than 4 states, if they also have multiple professions then that's a lot of category bloat. On an unrelated note, you might want to be aware of User:Truthkeeper88/Sandbox. —Xezbeth (talk) 17:31, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
It's not overcategorization b/c otherwise it ghettoizes, technically speaking. If she is *only* a women writer from New Jersey, then it means the writers from new jersey can only has men in it - that's the problem. I've proposed that these women-writers-by-state cats be deleted, but consensus seems to be against that. Anyway. Oh, hmm - I hadn't seen that sandbox. I wonder what she's preparing? --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 17:34, 17 May 2013 (UTC)

Gamarra (surname)/hatnote

Hi Xezbeth, I see you’ve removed the hatnote with the link to the Gamarra surname disambiguation page from 10-12 pages where I had put it (I just noticed that to my surprise after putting one back, thinking I had missed it-adding a Pedro Sanchez’ one in the bargain). Well, I suppose or rather imagine, that you assume that readers reaching those pages do NOT wonder in the least if they arrived on the Gamarra they were looking for; and/or that X Gamarra is not the exact homonym of Y Gamarra. For one, I don’t think that it helps not to have those hatnotes anymore; for instance, when you figure out that, well, after all, it may not be the one you wanted to read about that you found. Bear in mind that people may read articles on matters they have no previous knowledge of at all. Specially as there quite a few Paraguayan and Uruguayan football players with that surname, I would kindly but very strongly recommend that you put those hatnotes (which are not disgraceful nor problematic whatsoever, are they ?) back on those 10-12 pages. They were helpful and although you thought they were useless, I’m convinced, or rather I KNOW (for having been helped by those very tags in the Gamarras' maze) that they are not. Hoping you will agree to do so. If you have no time to proceed to the auto-revert, I certainly can do it, just ask here. Thanks a lot. -- (talk) 09:25, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

No, I will not put them back on. There is no ambiguity between Daniel Gamarra and any other article of a person who happens to share the surname. If the reader doesn't know who they're looking for, they can visit Gamarra and go from there. By your reasoning, there should be a hatnote on every single biographical article that has a shared surname with at least one other person, which isn't the case. The only time it should be used is if Gamarra redirected to a biography as a primary topic, then the hatnote serves a purpose in directing the reader to the disambiguation page that they may have been looking for. See Wikipedia:Hatnote#Disambiguating article names that are not ambiguous. —Xezbeth (talk) 10:03, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
Well, hi again likewise, and let me start by saying that I was just trying to help. I had a look at the guideline about hatnotes but as it mentions those unnecessary hatnotes can (/vs/must) be removed and as it was or is, I couldn't tell, the subject of a very long discussion whose end seemed a bit unclear to me, I confess that, oddly enough, I am not convinced. By your reasoning, quite a few items should be removed from pages as optional features for lazy or stupid readers like me, and feel free to do so. Why even bother having hatnotes if we can indeed search for homonyms and homonym pages ? References are all on Google and policies and methods are explained somewhere. Still, don’t be afraid, I am only half-serious -BUT there is serious confusion between ambiguity and homonymy in those guidelines you mentioned above- and I will leave those pages and all pages just like they are. Thank you for you reply.-- (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:24, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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I award you the categorization barnstar, for great work in de-ghettoizing hundreds (thousands?) of bios of women and ethnic minorities, and moving them into non-gendered cats as well! Keep it up! Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 15:07, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Discussion about novelist categories

Greetings! You are invited to take place in a conversation happening Category_talk:American_novelists#Stalemate here about how to move forward with discussion on subcategories of by-country novelist categories.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 15:10, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

What do you mean by "cat"

This edit is one of several dozen of your recent edits that make changes to articles with an edit summary consisting exclusively of the word "cat". I don't think it's a feline-related edit. I do think that your edit had something to do with reordering and shifting some of the categories included in the article, and I guess I could try to match up the old and new entries one by one and figure out what you did, but you could make the lives of all editors looking at your edits far easier by providing an actual explanation for your edits. As an administrator I would hope that you would be a shining example of how edit summaries can be used to share information with other editors and I hope that you will be substantially more effusive and explanatory in future edits. Alansohn (talk) 17:42, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Are you joking? Your own edit history is full of "add cat". How is that any different? Are you adding pictures of cats to the articles? —Xezbeth (talk) 18:19, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Ah, I now see your contribution to Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Johnpacklambert. Since I can only guess as to what your angle is here then I shall endeavor to be fully descriptive in my edit summaries. —Xezbeth (talk) 18:39, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Are you joking? My angle here is to understand what on earth your edits mean. I'm sure that I've written edit summaries that only say "add cat", but even that is far more explanatory than the single word "cat". Did you add, subtract, change, modify, retitle or reorder the categories in several dozen recent edits? No one can possibly know based on your unwillingness to provide the information. The words "add cat" do appear in my last several hundred edits, but always as part of a far more detailed explanation, and your effort to turn this into a game trying to show that I'm somehow just as bad as you are is utterly non-responsive. Why not try to follow basic courtesy and work to provide self-explanatory edit summaries that go beyond a single word? Try for two words or even three before making the bold step of using sentences. A simple "thanks for the suggestion" would also have sufficed. Alansohn (talk) 18:55, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
I have used the same edit summaries for nearly ten years, and until today nobody has said a word about them. Perhaps if you were a touch less condescending when you make a suggestion then I'd be more happy to oblige. —Xezbeth (talk) 18:58, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Your recent edits to Pat Brown (criminal profiler) are exactly what I'm looking for. Your actions can speak for themselves and there is no ambiguity on what was done with the categories in the article. Thanks for the change, which should be a model for the future. If your response wasn't so snide I might be even more appreciative. Alansohn (talk) 19:01, 23 May 2013 (UTC)


User:SlimVirgin and you seem to be somewhat at cross purposes. SV has restored and expanded given name entries I removed from the main dab page. There is already a Madeleine (given name), which already has the info. The discussion is going on at Talk:Madeleine. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:52, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

About Hawthorne (surname)

Hi Xezbeth. Obviously it's an English, as in "English language", surname. It would appear to me that it is a particularly English, as in "England", surname. I've had a little look for refs, but haven't found anything yet. Your thoughts? Pete aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:54, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

I try not to add countries or languages to the lede unless it's very obvious, since technically it has to be referenced. All of the surname-by-country categories were upmerged into Category:Surnames some time ago, so the by-language categories are all we have to work with in that regard. Though at the moment I'm mainly formatting articles and splitting them from dab pages, so I'm happy to keep whatever the content the article already has without worrying about it too much. —Xezbeth (talk) 10:07, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Your edits to Laurenti

I see that you're working through a lot of "dab" pages for surnames and sorting them out into surname pages, but I think on this one you lost useful content. I've moved Monsieur Laurent (no "i") to a see also section which explains "laurenti", and replaced the "in title" link as I think it is useful here. I glimpsed at your contributions list hoping to see if there were other similar cases, but then saw the scale of your project and gave up on it - but I hope you won't delete any more useful stuff like this. Thanks. PamD 09:35, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I screwed up on this one. I didn't notice that Raymond Laurent had a different surname, and the in title link got lost in my original edit. —Xezbeth (talk) 09:45, 3 June 2013 (UTC)


I see that you have again moved the Kümmel disambiguation page. The German for caraway is of little relevance, and I would not have objected to its removal, but perhaps you can answer the following questions:

  1. The usual English meaning of "Kümmel" is as the name of a liqueur. As you are aware, the word also exists as a surname. What is your objection to having a disambiguation page disambiguating these two meanings?
  2. I see here that you think the German meaning of the word is worth including. Why do you regard a meaning which as far as I know is neither in use in English nor the subject of a Wikipedia article as being more worthy of inclusion than a meaning which is in common use in English and is the subject of a Wikipedia article?
  3. The policy on wheel warring says "Do not repeat a reversed administrative action when you know that another administrator opposes it." (Bold in the original.) Is there any good reason for considering your action in this case to be exempt from this policy? JamesBWatson (talk) 14:53, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
The liqueur is the primary topic, so a disambiguation page is extraneous as a hatnote can easily cover it. My admin action in this instance was to revert myself by histmerging an article that I had split; performing a page move in the process, a few days after I raised it on your talk page with no response, so I assumed you didn't care enough to object. I hardly think it constitutes wheel-warring since you didn't use admin tools yourself unless I'm missing something. —Xezbeth (talk) 15:03, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I forgot that you posted on my talk page, sorry for that. However, there you deal mainly with the point "There is no point mentioning that it's German for Caraway", which is quite separate from the question of disambiguation of the surname versus the liqueur. On reflection, my remark about wheel warring was perhaps disproportionate to what is really a rather trivial matter. I have no quarrel with your moving the list of uses of the surname to a disambiguation page specifically for the surname, nor would I have had any objection to your removing the mention of the German for caraway (though, as I mentioned above, you have chosen to keep it). However, I still don't understand why you are happy to start the disambig page for the surname with a sentence mentioning that Kümmel is German for "caraway", while being so insistent that there must be no mention of what you say yourself is the primary topic for the word. It is true that anyone looking for the liqueur is unlikely to find their way to the disambig page, as they will go straight to Kümmel, but it is by no means inconceivable that someone may find their way there for other reasons, and find it interesting or even useful to find out that the word is the name of a liqueur. I therefore don't understand why you object so strongly to its inclusion, so much so that you have repeatedly removed it. Even if you think it is unnecessary, does including it do any harm? JamesBWatson (talk) 15:46, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
You're right that a disambiguation page should link to the primary topic. However, a list comprised entirely of surname-holders isn't a disambiguation page, but a set index, so it doesn't follow the same rules. If there was another article that could have fitted in Kümmel (disambiguation), then I would have simply split the surname list off and left the disambig intact. However, because in this instance there was only the primary topic and a list of names I moved the page and changed the formatting to that of a set index. But yes, a single link is trivial, so rather than mention it in the lede I've added a wiktionary link and a link to Kümmel in a see also section. —Xezbeth (talk) 16:10, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
OK, I don't see any great problem with your latest version. However, I still don't see why it is any better than what existed before you came on the scene. What we have is a page which gives the same information as before, but under a different title (including "surname" instead of "disambiguation") and with two of the meanings listed in different forms (one moved to "see also", and one just mentioned in a sentence about the surname). Why you regard such trivial changes of formatting of the same information to be worth spending time on beats me. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:43, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Request for comment

A discussion has been opened - where subsequent discussion should take place - at:


(Neutral statement: At issue is the description of a scholarly journal, turning on allowable summary or interpretations from statements within what may or may not be held as reliable sources.)

--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 18:25, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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After seeing countless edits correcting redirects, Disambig pages, Thanks for taking up these edits. Amit (talk) 03:34, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

Activated debates

Hi Xezbeth. I invite you to feedback on my views in Talk:List of names in English with counterintuitive pronunciations, I'm encouraging all involved since January to do so. Adam37 (talk) 10:33, 21 June 2013 (UTC)


Sorry about that. Regarding redirects: I didn't realize I'd be picking up so many when I cast my net for surname articles whose talkpages I could create. It's a small matter to remove that template; I'll do so tonight when I'm off work and have access to AWB.

Regarding the disambiguation template itself: do you not want that on any surnames? Because I've found it on a lot of surname pages (it's why I added it to the templates I was using to create talkpages). If that's a problem I can also run AWB to scrub those, once I've dealt with the other issue.

Lastly, what about talkpages on the redirects? I'll stop with those unless you'd like them to be there. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 12:17, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

The way I've been doing it is thus: if it's a disambiguation page that has a list of name-holders, then both tags should be used. If it's a separate surname article, either a name-holder list or a fully-formed referenced article, then just the anthroponymy tag would be fine. You're right that a lot of surname lists have the disambiguation tag already. They used to all be classified as disambiguation pages, so they've slowly been converted to set indexes over the years without the corresponding tags on the talk page being looked at.
As for redirects, I don't see the harm in tagging them as well. Might be an idea to class them in Category:Redirect-Class Anthroponymy articles at the same time though. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:31, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
The same would also apply to given names. I'm not very good with AWB or I'd have done it myself, but if there's a way of adding the anthroponymy project template to articles that have either {{given name}} or {{surname}}, and then adding both tags to all articles that are in Category:All disambiguation pages and one of Category:Surnames, Category:Given names, Category:Disambiguation pages with surname-holder lists or Category:Disambiguation pages with given-name-holder lists, then that shouldn't lead to any errors. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:58, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
There are a couple of ways I can think of, yes. Quite frankly, the one in particular I'm thinking of would make for maybe double the edits, as it would entail adding each template individually, but that's certainly a way to do it. Personally, I'd prefer it that way; it may be more work, but it's more certain.
I'll get started on it all tonight, then. It'll be tedious, given the numbers involved, but it shouldn't be too difficult. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 13:58, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
FYI: please see here and here. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:54, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Most of our articles do not have talk pages, let alone any redirects. To me this is completely pointelss, but the place to have this discussion is at the Village Pump. Apteva (talk) 16:17, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
Category:Redirect-Class articles begs to differ. In particular note Category:Redirect-Class United States articles, which is over twice as large as the surname one would be if it was fully populated. The category also serves a function in that I can compare Category:Redirect-Class Anthroponymy articles and Category:Redirects from surnames to find redirects that have been expanded into articles or redirects that have been overwritten. —Xezbeth (talk) 17:01, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Just an update: I'm almost all the way through the surname redirects. I'll probably finish them tomorrow, at the rate things are going. Once that's done I'll turn my attention to the given name redirects. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:52, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Tyler Minges

The ballplayer is pretty clearly non-notable, but to make it non-controversial I'll restore and AFD. Wizardman 14:16, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you, though I wasn't going to do anything about it besides ask the question. I think proposed deletion is a better venue for articles that have survived for so long. —Xezbeth (talk) 14:23, 8 July 2013 (UTC)


Hello X. I know that you will have already noticed the discussion I have started due to our new notification system but I wanted to leave a message with a direct link to the thread here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation#Question regarding Oppenheimer page so that you may add your input. MarnetteD | Talk 17:11, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

The ever reliable members of the DAB project got me squared away on the situation. Thanks for your forbearance and for your time. MarnetteD | Talk 17:44, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Oof and forgot to add apologies for my rude and incorrect edit summary while this was going on. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 20:02, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

External links

Also simply linking reviews to the EL is not what I have seen on WP:Anime and Manga articles

The Anime & Manga wikiproject is essentially defunct because all the content-producing editors have been driven away by increasingly narrow interpretations and deletionism; what you've seen is not in anyway what ought to be, but mere remnants. What, exactly, would you prefer people to do if not link to reviews? Link them on the talk page? This is utterly futile, as <5% of hand-selected highly relevant links will ever be actually added to articles: it is be linked in EL or not appear at all.

The question is, is it better for a lengthy insightful review for an RS to be linked, or not included at all? Given the moribund editing community, I'm afraid it is simply not a realistic option to demand that each review be carefully parsed and integrated into a Reception section.

Finally, I will again point you at WP:EL, which encourages use of ELs in the body of the article in some fashion but acknowledges that in the absence of infinite editor supply, this will not always happen and that putting RSs into a EL or Further Reading section is perfectly acceptable... --Gwern (contribs) 01:54 28 July 2013 (GMT)

You posted on the wrong talk page, I suspect you wanted User talk:KirtZJ. —Xezbeth (talk) 04:22, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
Whups, so I did. Sorry about that; I have no idea how I got the two of you confused. --Gwern (contribs) 23:22 3 August 2013 (GMT)


I think we have a common friend [10]. If you catch him, please let me know. --Eynre (talk) 07:37, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Removing from article Hornsleth Village Project, 3 Categories

Hi, I saw you removed 3 Categories from the Hornsleth Village Project, but without mentioning why. They look related to the article in question. Care to explain? Thanks! Here's the edit difference: Have a great day. Misty MH (talk) 22:06, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

I probably shouldn't have removed Category:Ugandan society, but Category:Danish society is an irrelevant category, and it's not a surname article so Category:Surnames serves no meaningful purpose. —Xezbeth (talk) 04:20, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. :) Misty MH (talk) 21:09, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Removal of project tags

Hello, please do not remove relevant project tags as you did [11] here. There is no need to write over an existing tag when you add a new one. Regards, Tomas e (talk) 14:53, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, was a reflex. Sheynhertz-Unbayg sockpuppets usually add a project tag that may or may not actually be relevant, and since the article was one of his I didn't look too carefully at it. —Xezbeth (talk) 15:05, 8 August 2013 (UTC)


I see you blocked under this long-term abuse case, of which I was unaware. I'd like to draw your attention to two others that have made the same edit at Vienna Museum: and I was scratching my head trying to figure out what I should do to make peace with this unknown, and I'm still unsure what makes them fit the MO detailed on that case page, but if one is that editor, they all are. Since I'm apparently the only one watching that article, you likely haven't noticed the connection. And please feel free to hand me my first block for edit warring if you can suggest how I should have handled it better. After 2 posts to the article talk and one to their latest IP talk, plus edit summaries trying to be clear, I was contemplating turning us both in at the edit warring noticeboard. Yngvadottir (talk) 22:18, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

I noticed the IPs, but blocking is fruitless as he wont return to them after hopping to another. User:Sheynhertz-Unbayg has been stubbornly ignoring his site ban for about 7 years, and because he usually edits low traffic Jewish biographies and surname articles he's often been ignored. Short of range blocking most of Japan or semi protecting every single article he appears on there's not much that can be done besides reverting his edits. —Xezbeth (talk) 04:30, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
I was afraid that was the size of it. I suppose then to avoid stretching the rules too far, if the same edit gets made again I come and get you to block rather than blocking him/her myself? I had been wondering if there was any more of it that was actually useful - so much effort to pepper the article with meticulous inline link templates in addition to all the red - but I just can't see the advantage. I will watchlist Leopoldstadt too. Yngvadottir (talk) 12:04, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
You can do, but I wouldn't hesitate about reverting; you were more accommodating of his edits than I would have been. Even if he wasn't a sockpuppet there'd be no problem with removing his edits. Links to other wikipedias are frowned upon and his preferred formatting is against the MOS. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:10, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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For fixing all those disamb links. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 04:16, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Your recent visit to the Kitano "Outrage Beyond" Page

Greetings from Takeshi Kitano's "Outrage Beyond" Page

Thank you for your recent visit to the wikipage for this Kitano film.

As you may have noticed, there have been numerous edits made to the page to try to get it its first page upgrade. Possibly you might have something like a top five list of things that need to be still done to the page in order to get it its first upgrade, and maybe you could list them for the next development phase of this page. Once again, thanks for visiting the "Outrage Beyond" wiki page. AutoMamet (talk) 18:19, 13 August 2013 (UTC)

given name redirect

Hi. This was wrong; I had created that redirect specifically to allow for such a link. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 10:17, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Double redirect

Hello. I've just come by to ask: Is there any particular reason why the Akinbiyi page redirects to itself? I'd just like to make sure that it wasn't a mistake on your part, as you seem to have created the redirect a few days ago. Thanks in advance. (talk) 23:02, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Link to

Hi, I noticed you change a lot of links to disambiguation pages. See this edit and quite a few more. What is the benefit for that change? From a direct link you changed it to link to a redirect. Garion96 (talk) 11:26, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

To make it clear that the intent is to link to the disambiguation page, and not to one of the ambiguous terms. See WP:DPL. —Xezbeth (talk) 11:43, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
I still don't really see it on WP:DPL. In Miletić there already was a link to the disambiguation page at Milius. Now it's linked to the redirect Milius (disambiguation). I can't imagine the goal is to alter a direct link to a redirect on purpose. Garion96 (talk) 12:09, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
"Where an article intentionally links to a disambiguation page, that link should be through a "Foo (disambiguation)" redirect, to make it clear that the link is intentional." —Xezbeth (talk) 12:14, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
It does says so but still don't see it as valid. You know a policy or guideline behind that reasoning? To make edits in articles just to change a good link to a redirect link seems utterly pointless. Garion96 (talk) 05:36, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
WP:HOWTODAB. It's common practice; thousands of similar edits occur every month, so I'm surprised you haven't noticed before. Take a look at something like List of surnames in Russia for dozens of examples on one page. —Xezbeth (talk) 05:57, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
Nope, never saw that before, don't agree with it either but that's besides the point. I do think the edit you made above is pointless though. Change it with other fixes in AWB or script ok. But an edit to only "fix" that... Garion96 (talk) 07:19, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

country WP tags

Why remove country wikiprojects on an anthroponymy article? --Joy [shallot] (talk) 12:08, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Because those particular tags are nonsense added by a sockpuppet of User:Sheynhertz-Unbayg. If someone who isn't site banned wants to re-add them then they are welcome to. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:10, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Your opinion and expertise would be greatly appreciated

You had been "pinged" recently to provide some input regarding a discussion involving Mormon Studies Review and so are now being appropriately canvassed (per wp:CANVASSING) to participate in the deletion discussion for the Review's brand-new "step-sibling" journal, Interpreter -- here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Interpreter: A Journal of Mormon Scripture. Thanks for your consideration of this request.--Hodgdon's secret garden (talk) 18:11, 19 August 2013 (UTC)


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Is dabsolver malfunctioning?

First things first. I just realized I was on the talk page of a True Veteran Of Wikipedia. Thank you for your commitment. Earlier this afternoon, I used Dab-solver to do a minor edit at Bruise Pristine. The result is a bunch of (#) signs where brackets should be. The same thing happened here [12] about 10 minutes prior. The first time it happened, I made the corrections, but the second time suggested that something was wrong. I asked at the TeaHouse but they haven't answered yet. ```Buster Seven Talk 21:26, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm not that familiar with the tool myself, but it was probably the toolserver malfunctioning. If it happens again then User talk:Dispenser/Dab solver would be the best place to raise it. Or Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation pages with links, since Dispenser hasn't been around for a while. —Xezbeth (talk) 06:02, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Blocking IP

Thanks for reverting that's persistent additions. Is there a way to prevent him from doing that again? Bednarek was having a helluva time with him yesterday night. Krenakarore TK 13:12, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Besides rangeblocking most of Japan, there's not much that can be done. He's been ban evading since 2006 so maybe he'll tire out one day. —Xezbeth (talk) 14:00, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Meteorite fall

I appreciate your efforts on Meteorite fall, but a 100% source in errors in not very helpful. The first link of any line is not a place name but the name of the meteorite. Sorry, I am going to revert your edits. The Banner talk 22:15, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

I don't see the harm in linking to the area in lieu of an article on the actual meteorite, especially since I doubt a full article can be made on all of them. —Xezbeth (talk) 07:03, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Georg Friedrich Haas

Hi Xezbeth,

I'm not up to speed on User:Sheynhertz-Unbayg, but may we discuss edits to the Haas article on their own merits please? Sparafucil (talk) 20:43, 4 September 2013 (UTC)

So you should manually add them back in, since you aren't banned. Reverting wholesale and reintroducing his worthless formatting changes is not good. —Xezbeth (talk) 08:49, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar

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Hello, I'm giving you this for coming second in the Dab challenge for August; you fixed 1060 links. Rcsprinter (cackle) @ 20:22, 5 September 2013 (UTC) – Suspected Sheynhertz-Unbayg edits reverted

I'm pretty sure this is him, but I'm just notifying you to double-check that I have reverted this user correctly. Thanks. Ginsuloft (talk) 20:30, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

More SU, please block: Special:Contributions/ Ginsuloft (talk) 22:44, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Just a question

Hi, I just wonder what's the point to remove the categories "Category:Mizrahic surnames" and "Category:Sephardic surnames"? It seems to me it is that they are needed to specify what exactly Jewish roots these surnames have. Thanks in advance for your reply. Olsonspterom (talk) 19:01, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

I have no problem with either category. As long as the articles that populate them actually assert that they belong in either category then it's fine, I'm not even particularly interested in references. My issue was that Category:Mizrahic surnames was created and populated entirely by sockpuppets of site-banned User:Sheynhertz-Unbayg, with the category being seemingly randomly added to articles and redirects that don't even mention their origin. I'm not prepared to take SU's word for it either since he's proven literally thousands of times over the years that he doesn't know what he's doing. —Xezbeth (talk) 19:05, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
OK. I got it. You two had a long lasting issues. I did not know about that. But try when you revert some of them to see if the categories "Category:Mizrahic surnames" and "Category:Sephardic surnames" are needed or only the "Category:Jewish surnames" is enough. Take care. Olsonspterom (talk) 19:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for creating a category on Japanese urologists, there are many to come... Do you know of any Japanese admins?--Mishae (talk) 17:44, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

I don't know of any native Japanese admins, but there are a few living there listed in User:Moe Epsilon/Administrators by location. —Xezbeth (talk) 18:21, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! That helped me. I already let one of them know, and hopefully will get a swift reply from him.--Mishae (talk) 19:29, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Re: Surnames

OK, I understood. Thank you for the message. OffsBlink (talk) 23:24, 20 November 2013 (UTC)


Why did you removed Moulton Ltd. from the Moulton articel? --Gpont (talk) 08:52, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Because external links do not belong on disambiguation pages per MOS:DABENTRY. —Xezbeth (talk) 09:25, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

I see, thx --Gpont (talk) 09:42, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

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List of months by year

In 2005, you deleted List of months by year and some of its child lists per its AFD. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the impression I get is that that was almost solely because the lists were almost pure redlinks, which explains why List of months by year: 2000–2050 is still around. Does the AFD prejudice against converting the 2000–2050 list into a new List of months by year, so long as the list doesn't include all those redlinks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk • contribs) 21:59, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

I can't recall something from that long ago. An ancient VfD consensus like this one is effectively worthless because it's so out of date, so I wouldn't constrain myself because of it. —Xezbeth (talk) 22:13, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, it looks like the deletion was only because of redlinks anyway, so I'll go ahead and adapt the 2000–2050 list into a new List of months by year (it's the only List of months by year page that survived these AFD's). Could you temporally restore the old List of months by year to my userspace, in case there's something to salvage. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 17:09, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
I've restored them and they're now in List of months by year's history. —Xezbeth (talk) 17:24, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks' and I think I figured out what happened: It looks lake in February 2005 the list was split up by century, and converted into a list of lists. In June all but one of the child lists, along with list of lists itself, were deleted (I think) do to being almost pure redlinks.
By looking at the original version of the list, the the 20th century now has quite a few of bluelinks; I thought there were very few of those (mind you allot of those "bluelinks" are redirects to a year article, but allot aren't). I suppose there are two questions now: Do we want to continue excluding 20th century redlinks (and redirects) per the AFD, or are now there enough bluelinks that it's no longer worth it? Do we want to split up the list by century, or do we want to have one list covering both centuries (there are no bluelinks prior to the 20th century). Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 19:18, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

Category:Slave owner

Hello Xezbeth. I note that you recently deleted Category:Slave owner citing WP:CSD#C1. I believe that you were mistaken to do so because that CSD criterion requires categories to have been empty for at least four days, whereas the category in question was populated only a few hours before you deleted it. Could you please undo the deletion? —Psychonaut (talk) 13:00, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Quite, I should have just cited the AN/I discussion without shoehorning them into an incorrect criterion. I'm not inclined to restore Category:Slave owner, however, since the discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive829#CensoredScribe's categories doesn't support doing so. It's incorrectly named in any case, and should be at Category:Slave owners, which has been deleted before, or at Category:Slaveholders, which has been deleted before via CFD. —Xezbeth (talk) 17:04, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. I don't think that the discussion at WP:ANI justifies the deletion (first of all because it's still ongoing, and second because it's not the proper venue for discussion of category deletions), but I agree that a prior CfD is proper grounds. —Psychonaut (talk) 17:36, 31 January 2014 (UTC)


You seem to have forgotten to move the associated TP when you moved (then) Gamarra (disamb.) to simply Gamarra (which was a very sorry move to make, in my humble opinion, by the way; see the question in that very talk page, for instance). But as it is done, please do rename the associated Talk page. Thank you.-- (talk) 15:49, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Fixed, but I'm not sure how that question demonstrates it was a bad move. Gamarra previously redirected to Gamarra, Cesar, that person was looking for the footballer and was surprised when they didn't find it. It's a pretty good indicator that Gamarra should have been the location for a dab page all along. —Xezbeth (talk) 16:14, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Akins - adding class

See what you actually did.[13] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dougweller (talk • contribs) 16:13, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the spot. No idea how I managed that. —Xezbeth (talk) 16:16, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Sometimes there just seems to glitches in the software. Dougweller (talk) 16:40, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Hey how are you?

How is your day going? I think you are really cool! --Illodais (talk) 10:31, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Terror in Tokyo, and a barnstar

So I just created an article for this anime (check Special:Newpages) for the link. Did you already create an article for the English title? If so, I'll G7 the article I made. If not, can you help improve my article?

By the way, as I noticed that you frequently create articles on anime within 30 minutes to one hour of their announcement, here's a barnstar for your efforts. Man, you're even faster than Juhachi! Happy editing.

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Richard Ramirez

Hello, Xezbeth, just thought that I should notify you that Richard Ramirez is not living, so there cannot be a violation of the biographies of living persons policy for edits pertaining to him. Cheers.Hoops gza (talk) 19:08, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Good thing the revision summary I deleted had nothing to do with Richard Ramirez then. —Xezbeth (talk) 21:39, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Hello! Can you give me a deleted page or move the page?

Who created the "Project Shrine Maiden" article you deleted because it was a hoax? Can you give me it or perhaps move it to Speedy Deletion Wiki? I'd be glad if you did. (talk) 21:00, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

May 2014 disambig contest: let's do it again!

Greetings fellow disambiguator! Remember back in February when we made history by clearing the board for the first time ever, for the monthly disambiguation contest? Let's do it again in May! I personally will be aiming to lead the board next month, but for anyone who thinks they can put in a better effort, I will give a $10 Amazon gift card to any editor who scores more disambiguation points in May. Also, I will be setting up a one-day contest later in the month, and will try to set up more prizes and other ways to make this a fun and productive month. Cheers! bd2412 T 18:51, 28 April 2014 (UTC)


Hi Xezbeth.

I'm wondering why you:

  • added "See also" links about subjects that are NOT surnames, which were not included in the originally named page. If anything, I'd imagine they would belong on a "disambiguation" page but not on a "surname" page.

I almost reverted these changes and then I noticed you're an admin of long standing. Cheers. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 21:37, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

I do not consider a minor asteroid and a minor crater - both named after the primary topic - to be of equal prominence to the surname that they are derived from. Especially in this instance, both articles are tiny, unreferenced and should probably be redirected elsewhere anyway. —Xezbeth (talk) 21:41, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
I went ahead and recreated Stravinsky (disambiguation) anyway, but I do not consider it to be particularly useful. —Xezbeth (talk) 21:46, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, that fixes it nicely. I've never heard of moving a page without leaving a direct from the existing page. Is it a tool only admins have access to? Or did you separately explicitly delete the original page? It seems counterproductive to me to remove all traces of a page's history. Cheers. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 21:51, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
I only suppress the redirect when I'm converting a dab page with a (disambiguation) ambiguator into a surname list article, which isn't a dab page but a set index. Even if I didn't do that, I would manually delete the redirect after moving the article as it's misleading. —Xezbeth (talk) 21:58, 28 April 2014 (UTC)


Not sure, honestly. I just copied the templates from a previous talkpage and went from there. Where they came from I'm not sure.

No matter; I can fix it pretty easily. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:31, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Much obliged. Manually fixing a 9000-strong category is a bit daunting. ~5000 is slightly better —Xezbeth (talk) 19:32, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Sure thing. AWB is a joy for things like that. And the best thing, I can fix the error on other pages where it may have cropped up at the same time. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 19:38, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Do be careful with some of them though, if the article in question is a dab page then the tag is correct. Lots of them are still nasty hybrids of a name article and a dab page, and those do need to be cleaned up manually. Saying that it's only a talk page tag, so no big deal. —Xezbeth (talk) 19:40, 16 May 2014 (UTC)
Yes - I think I found a way to separate them out. Seems to have been working thus far; I'll do another spot-check when I start the cleanup to be certain. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa.

Request for comment

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Thanks for deleting Kinnear (disambiguation) - request input for related discussion


Thank you for your recent deletion contribution of Kinnear (disambiguation); I've nominated similar redirects in the past to be deleted for the same reason ... redirects with "(disambiguation)" in their title that redirects to a list/set index page ... and they were deleted. However, there has been a dispute about a redirect I had recently nominated for deletion for the same reason: Einhorn (disambiguation). I ended up having to start a discussion for the redirect here (on RFD). Any input you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Steel1943 (talk) 14:04, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

I've commented, but I do not see why RfD should be necessary. These redirects are worthless and misleading. —Xezbeth (talk) 14:20, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
P.S. I like the list you created/presented in the discussion: it provides a quick reference for the pages with similar issues. I will most likely assist with some of those in the future. Steel1943 (talk) 18:17, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
It's pretty out of date now since I keep getting sidetracked by doing other things. I'll do another catscan when I get round to it. —Xezbeth (talk) 18:24, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Capitalization of vernacular names corresponding to taxonomic names

I noted that you confidently made changes to the capitalization of Eurasian tree creeper in the text of that article. I contribute and edit many such names at English Wiktionary, following a rule that seems similar to yours.

My question is whether there is general agreement on such matters within all the relevant interest groups for (non-human) living-thing articles at English Wikipedia. That is, does the lack of capitalization apply to mammals. reptiles, amphibians, insects, birds, fish, plants, protists, etc.? Also what about breeds of pet animals and varieties of plants like Rosa 'American Beauty'? Ie, should that be Rosa 'American beauty'? This matters to me for creating links from Wiktionary to Wikipedia and for making the occasional page move at Wikipedia. DCDuring (talk) 18:30, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

I wouldn't go as far as calling it general agreement, since WP:BIRDS are rather aggrieved by it, but per Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 156#Bird common name decapitalisation, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters#Animals.2C plants.2C and other organisms and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (fauna) now push for sentence case for all species names. Cultivars seem to all follow WP:CULTIVAR which treats them as proper nouns. As for breed names, I do not believe there's ever been a consensus. Dog breeds are all capitalized, yet duck and chicken breeds tend to vary, so there's not even any consistency at the moment. —Xezbeth (talk) 19:14, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
At Wiktionary, in principle we would have entries with both kinds of capitalization if they are "attestable", but as a practical matter we follow the sentence-case standard by default except for pet breeds. Thanks for the summary. DCDuring (talk) 19:34, 3 June 2014 (UTC)


Hi Xezbeth. I've been doing quite a bit of downcasing of bird articles, and have been noticing how often you had already moved the articles I went to. Until you did that, I was finding it quite tedious having to G6 any blocking redirects, and I appreciated being saved that chore. Thanks. --Stfg (talk) 16:38, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Me too. You've saved me a lot of time and effort. Keep up the good work. SchreiberBike talk 19:23, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
You're welcome. I think I enjoy doing monotonous tasks like that to a degree. —Xezbeth (talk) 19:50, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Source of "Project Shrine Maiden"

I was fooling around on Wikipedia again, and saw a page called Project Shrine Maiden, it redirected me to the Touhou Project page, but I clicked on the redirect link. So it turns out that you deleted a page called Project Shrine Maiden because it was a hoax. I'm just wondering...can I see the source of the deleted Project Shrine Maiden page? (talk) 17:53, 7 June 2014 (UTC)

"Unprintworthy page title"

Hi Xezbeth: I see you are hard at work at the unenviable job of down casing bird article title names. Kudos; I'm sure it's a thankless task. One question: I see you're adding a template for "unprintworthy page title" to the redirects you're creating. What exactly does that do? The reason I ask is that birders — who, if we're brutally honest, are the most likely to create hard copies of wikipedia articles about birds — are FAR more likely to look for titles with title-cased article capitalization than they are to look for a sentence-cased version. Will this designation preclude them getting that? Just curious — as a birder, you know!  :) MeegsC (talk) 07:26, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

It's a category that is automatically added with Template:R from other capitalisation. In a printed version of Wikipedia, there would be no need for a pointer from the capitalised version to the non-capitalised version since the article title is identical. Something like Brazilian antthrush, on the other hand, would be printworthy, since somebody might look that up when looking for the article titled rufous-tailed antthrush. Though the only reason I'm adding the template at all is because most of the original redirects to the capitalized article titles used it, and I wanted to be thorough. —Xezbeth (talk) 08:25, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
I noticed that you downcased hobby (bird), which is one of the pages I've retained on my massively pruned bird watchlist. I'm interested to know why Kārearea retains the capitalised form? Although I'm no fan of this policy, I'm obviously keen that it is implemented consistently, and I helped another downcaser sort out Maccoa duck, so this is a genuine enquiry. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:19, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
It wasn't a deliberate choice to keep it upper case, I just missed it. There were two things that I was going to ask about at some point though: Should Hawaiian bird names like ʻAnianiau be at ʻanianiau? Also, I left Amazon parrots alone because I assumed Amazon would stay as a proper noun, would that be correct? —Xezbeth (talk) 16:43, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
Amazon is definitely capped. I have never had any involvement with Hawaiian bird species, and I know nothing of the language. Maybe one of the US editors could help? Jimfbleak - talk to me? 18:37, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Inca hummingbirds

Thanks for your incredible work in downcasing bird article names. I just downcased the List of hummingbirds and noticed that there are a number of species named 'Incas', like black Inca. Since Inca is generally a proper noun, I presume that it should remain uppercase. I assume that you did this algorithmically, and that downcasing these was, therefore, just an oversight. Can you confirm? Pburka (talk) 01:42, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

There were a couple of books on google that use "inca" so I automatically went with it. I do not know for sure whether it should be a proper noun though. —Xezbeth (talk) 04:24, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. It looks like there are some examples of "inca" being used with a lowercase I, for example Schulenberg, Stotz and Lane: "Lower-elevation incas primarily in under- and midstory of humid montane forest interior; and Cleave: "...and Collared inca are all quite widely distributed." The OED also confirms that the name should be lowercased in this context. I'll follow your lead and lowercase them. Pburka (talk) 19:50, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Free!#Should the article stay at its current title, or should it be moved back to Free! (anime)?

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Free!#Should the article stay at its current title, or should it be moved back to Free! (anime)?. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:16, 4 July 2014 (UTC)

Talk:Free! (anime)#Comments after the move

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Free! (anime)#Comments after the move. Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:06, 5 July 2014 (UTC)


Just wanted to let you know I'm sorry for the personal attack on the Shore Dottrel page. It was out of line and I apologise. I remain mystified why you would chose to implement a controversial decision in that way, but that isn't an excuse. So, yeah, meah culpa big time. And now I really need to stay away from this place for an extremely long time as its making unbelievably angry. Sorry you got caugt up in that. (talk) 05:13, 22 July 2014 (UTC)


Hi Xezbeth, I'm trying to understand this edit [14]. Now the dab has a primary topic it's more obvious, but doesn't change that this is a dab, unless I'm missing something? Regards Widefox; talk 22:11, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

You are correct. I must have noticed the lede was already for a surname article when going through AWB and just changed it without thinking too much. —Xezbeth (talk) 04:32, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for replying. Just wanted to double check, regards Widefox; talk 11:50, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Queen Mothers Gate

When does fact become fiction, when someone fevently thinks something that is wrong is right. That is the case with your edits to the Queen Mothers Gate page, which has attempted to be updated by someone who is responsible for its very existence, yet you deem your own knowledge about in superior. It is false that the architect was Richard Rogers, if you don't believe this author, phone him and ask him, and therefore unless it is just because you wish to encourage mis-information oon Wikipedia please change it back to the incorrect information you insist on re-publishing about these gates. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:00, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Why not just remove that sentence then? Why remove the references and formatting? —Xezbeth (talk) 11:14, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Jinsei for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Jinsei is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jinsei until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. (talk) 14:45, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Tennessee warbler

Hello Xezbeth: A question about an article ((Tennessee warbler) that you recently downcased. You downcased the bird names throughout, but left a link to the insect "Spruce Budworm" capitalized. Was that just an oversight? I must confess I'm rather afraid to touch anything to do with the MOS downcasing these days, as I don't want to be tarred as a troublemaker, but it does seem to me that if birds are to be downcased, then all other species named in the same article should also be downcased! If you agree, I'll make that change. MeegsC (talk) 17:52, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

I just fixed it, as it was an oversight. I do fully intend to downcase other animals once I've finished working through my own page move log. —Xezbeth (talk) 17:58, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! If I find any others, I'll just downcase them myself. MeegsC (talk) 18:35, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

Attila as a proper noun

Hello Xezbeth, I saw that you had downcased "Attila" in Attila (genus) and in the bird articles in that genus. It seems to me that since they are named after Attila the Hun, Attila is a proper noun and should be capitalized. If you have no objection, I'll go through and recapitalize those. Thanks, SchreiberBike talk 22:17, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

I don't think it is a proper noun. Attila (genus) has referred to them as "attilas" since long before I came along. Plenty of books on google treat it as a common noun. See above somewhere for a similar thing concerning incas. —Xezbeth (talk) 06:53, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Looks like you are right - never mind. SchreiberBike talk 16:53, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

I really need help finding a deleted article that you deleted

You deleted Project Shrine Maiden because it was a hoax. I reaaaallly like Touhou and I know "Project Shrine Maiden" is its' nickname, so could you give me the deleted source? I will put it on my user page when I start the section "Kotohimelove's User Page of Randomness". Okay? So can you give me the deleted source? Kotohimelove (talk) 01:42, 12 September 2014 (UTC)


[15]Excuse me? I'm the one who started this thread. Are you accusing me of a witch hunt? I assume that you have some diffs to back that up? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 16:02, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Who said it was you doing the canvassing? —Xezbeth (talk) 16:06, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
I'm the one who started that discussion[16] and you responded directly to that thread.[17] Either back up your accusation with some diffs or clarify who exactly who you're accusing of canvassing. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 16:21, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
You proposed an interaction ban. If you notice, I didn't even comment on either of those, it's the site ban proposal that I take issue with. And this [18] is textbook canvassing. The site ban proposal didn't exist at the time of that post, but it makes no difference. —Xezbeth (talk) 16:26, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

List of banned users MfD

Hi Xezbeth. Thanks for taking the time to comment on the proposals for change at the list of banned users. It's clear that there's sufficient support that a deletion will not be SNOW closed, so I've listed it at MfD - Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:List of banned users (6th nomination). I thought it appropriate to keep you informed. WormTT(talk) 09:54, 16 September 2014 (UTC)


Hello. It looks like you created Ahmanson, with a redirect. I think we should get rid of the redirect and instead have a page for Ahmanson with subsections for "people" (Howard F. Ahmanson, Sr., Howard Ahmanson, Jr. and Caroline Leonetti Ahmanson--whose article I'm working on), then "places" (Ahmanson Theatre and Ahmanson Ranch) and "other" (H. F. Ahmanson & Co.and Ahmanson's sportive lemur). If you agree, can you please get rid of the redirect? If you disagree, can you please explain why? Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 09:10, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Done. I didn't originally since every relevant link was already at H. F. Ahmanson. The lemur and ranch are partial title matches and are not really ambiguous with the term "Ahmanson". —Xezbeth (talk) 12:36, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

Turner listed at Redirects for discussion


An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Turner. Since you had some involvement with the Turner redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Yaksar (let's chat) 20:41, 8 October 2014 (UTC)


Please don't turn disambiguation pages into unreferenced articles containing BLP material. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 16:26, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

You have got to be kidding me. —Xezbeth (talk) 20:41, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
  • Source it...per WP:RS and WP:V and WP:BLP. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:14, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

About Zsolt Szilágyi

Hi Xezbeth. I'm all in a fuddle about this page. As the Master-mistress of redirects, could you possibly help me out here? Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:19, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Converted to a disambiguation page since it would be hard to justify a primary topic. Did it really sit in cat:csd for three days with nobody doing anything to it? How unusual. —Xezbeth (talk) 15:06, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
Yes, it did. Thank you for fixing that up, and see also She's So Unusual and It's Not Unusual. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 11:08, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

About Yuri Kuma Arashi

This isn't a media franchise, just an anime and manga adaptation. The article's mainly about the anime (which is the original work), as indicated in the lead, so I reverted your edit as the image in the infobox should reflect the main subject. You can check other anime articles, you'll see pretty much all of them follow this practice. Kazu-kun (talk) 23:28, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Virk (disambiguation)

If you want to improve WP, please do not blind revert as you did at Virk (disambiguation), even though it took me a while to come up with an improved definition of Virk to yours ignotum per ignotius.

Moreover, if you bothered to check where the listed articles belonged to, you would realise that there is no "primary" meaning here. Surnames of the Slovenian writers and historians and one of the Canadian sportscaster bear no linguistic or other relation whatsoever to the Virk clan in India, however much you claimed the clan "primary".

Instead, the disambig page should be renamed to "Virk", and current "Virk" moved to "Virk (Indian clan)". This way WP would improve. Regards, kashmiri TALK 22:50, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

So request a move at Talk:Virk via WP:RM. As it stands, the article residing at Virk is the primary topic. —Xezbeth (talk) 05:35, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
I will move it myself in free time. Thanks for restoring the definition. kashmiri TALK 08:23, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Redirects and categories

Aren't categories allowed in redirects according to WP:RCAT? I thought that this edit would be useful, especially for Funimation, because the title they have licensed is Death Parade, and not Death Billiards. In Japanese Wikipedia this isn't problematic it seems. Raamin (talk) 02:40, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

It's messy. Category:2015 anime television series ends up being transcluded by the infobox anyway, so you end up with the same article being in the same category twice. Though I won't revert again if you want to re-add the categories.
What would probably be for the best is for the TV series to eventually be a split to a separate article at Death Parade, which would solve any category issues. —Xezbeth (talk) 06:24, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Cock o' the North

I notice you unlinked Cock o' the North earlier, on the Alexander Gordon and the Cam Ye O'er Frae France pages; can you tell me why? I can't see the reason for you doing so. Swanny18 (talk) 19:18, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

Because there is no separate article on the title. The relevant enyclopedic information can be found at Clan Gordon, which is already linked in the same sentence on Alexander Gordon, 2nd Duke of Gordon. I've just added a link on Cam Ye O'er Frae France also. —Xezbeth (talk) 20:11, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation; my apologies for not responding sooner. Swanny18 (talk) 22:42, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Samever

I noticed that you placed these two user talkpage warnings regarding creating hoaxes within articles. Do you still happen to remember what those hoaxes were? Thanks. --benlisquareT•C•E 03:44, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

It was a hoax article at Fate/oblivion twilight. One of them created it, and the other recreated it less than an hour later. —Xezbeth (talk) 07:09, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

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Jitsu Wa Watashi Wa

Hey there, thanks for creating the Jitsu Wa Watashi Wa article. I'm a member of the scanlation group that's currently working on the series. If it would help, I could come up with some basic character descriptions. I'd go ahead and add them myself, but I'm not too familiar with how things should be organized on an article this new. Would you mind helping me with them? Thanks.

--Tarage (talk) 07:55, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

I've added a basic section for now. Don't worry too much about formatting errors, they can be fixed easily enough. Use a similar article as a template since they should all be formatted the same way. —Xezbeth (talk) 08:09, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I added information and some characters that got missed, though some might be trimmable. I can work on trying to cite the chapters in which the statements I made were verified, but it will take me a while to re-read the 60 odd chapters. I didn't have the kanji for the characters I added, so I just left them alone. Hopefully that helps fill in the article a bit more. --Tarage (talk) 10:51, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh also, I have various covers from the manga, but I'm not sure what the procedure is to downsize them and upload them. --Tarage (talk) 11:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for fixing that. I was doing what I could (I could do everything but put the Manhattan park back at Bryant Park) when you fixed it up. -Niceguyedc Go Huskies! 09:43, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

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The DAB page Alaverdian

Okay so Alaverdian now just has one page since the other one was deleted-not sure should I put a AFD on this or what? Or you could just delete the page all together I suppose. (Unless if we can find another person with this name)Wgolf (talk) 16:11, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

If there's only one entry then redirecting it and adding {{R from surname}} is the way to go. —Xezbeth (talk) 17:10, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Hatnotes and extra disambiguation

Hi, Xezbeth. I noticed you removed all the hatnotes I put in or modified yesterday in the Albert Lucas group of pages. As a courtesy, I would have appreciated a discussion first, and a ref to WP:NAMB as justification. However, NAMB itself is, shall we say, ambiguous about whether these hatnotes hsould be allowed. It starts by saying that "in many cases" they are unnecessary, but finishes with: The presence or absence of hatnotes in articles with disambiguated titles has been a contentious issue, and this guideline doesn't prescribe one way or the other. There are cases where some editors strongly believe that such hatnotes should be included, such as the various articles about treaties called Treaty of Paris.

To my reading, that makes it an editor's personal choice. In this case, some of the articles in the set already had hatnotes before I reorganized, some did not, and I elected to keep and make consistent rather than delete and make consistent. In this particular case, because of the page moves in the restructuring and some related mass changes to inbound links, I expect a number of pages will be linked to the wrong version, and really should have a link to the dab page.

TL;DR Either way - hatnoted or not - is acceptable to the community as a whole, please respect that. Since there are reasons in this case to keep them in, there's a stronger argument for this group of articles to have the hatnote.

- Dovid (talk) 17:15, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

They are not acceptable. None of the ambiguators at Albert Lucas could be confused with each other, so there is no justification for linking back to the dab page. Someone reading Al Lucas (basketball) does not care if there are other people named Al Lucas. —Xezbeth (talk) 20:14, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but you are incorrect. The arguments have been made in WP:NAMB numerous times, over many years, for and against your position. No consensus has ever been reached. That is why NAMB says that either way is allowed, no need to force them, no need to remove them. The key arguments against you are that external inbound links and searches may arrive at the "wrong name," and further that there is a use for navigational aids for readers "leafing" through the encyclopedia. The counterarguments are that search mitigates the issue, and that provision of navigation features is questionable. The discussion has gone around and around in the policy discussion, and never been resolved. That being the case, please leave it alone and let the incumbent be. Dovid (talk) 14:34, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
No, you are wrong. Otherwise every single article with a disambiguator would have a hatnote pointing to a dab page, which is not and has never been the case. —Xezbeth (talk) 15:08, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Even this WP:NAMB that you seem to be relying on agrees with me: "Here the hatnote can be removed. A reader who is following links within Wikipedia is unlikely to end up at tree (set theory) if one were looking for other types of trees, since tree does not redirect there. A hatnote may still be appropriate when even a more specific name is still ambiguous. For example, Matt Smith (comics) might still be confused with the comics illustrator Matt Smith (illustrator)." I bolded the important part. —Xezbeth (talk) 15:11, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
You ignore: The presence or absence of hatnotes in articles with disambiguated titles has been a contentious issue, and this guideline doesn't prescribe one way or the other. There are cases where some editors strongly believe that such hatnotes should be included, such as the various articles about treaties called Treaty of Paris.Dovid (talk) 15:45, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Which is not remotely comparable with this, since Treaty of Paris (1763) and Treaty of Paris (1783) can easily be confused. Al Lucas (American football) and Albert Lucas (Jewish activist) will never be confused. —Xezbeth (talk) 17:09, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Miss Monochrome Reverted Edit

Hi there. I noticed you reverted my edit on the Miss Monochrome page. Trust me when I say this, you are not the only person to deny me a submission of an edit. I refer you to this video of a competition called Perfect Idol hosted by the anime company Bangzoom! Entertainment and company Starchild Records.

5:35 - 5:45

Voice Actress, Cristina Vee explains that the winner of Perfect Idol will play the lead of the show. (Miss Monochrome)

9:00 - 9:15

Voice Actress, Cristina Vee announces the Perfect Idol winner being Abby Trott

9:23 - 9:40

Casting Director, Mami Okada announces that Sandy Rojas will be given the part of Mana from Miss Monochrome

This is proof my edit is valid. I ask that you kindly review these times of this youtube video and fix the edit. I'm only trying to help contribute to the page.

Sorry, I shouldn't have used rollback. I'm not inclined to re-add the casting information because apart from the youtube video there I can find no mention of this anywhere on the rest of the internet. —Xezbeth (talk) 08:51, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

New question raised regarding Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton/April 2015 move request

Some opposers of this move have now contended that there is a "Critical fault in proposal evidence", which brings the opinions expressed into question. Please indicate if this assertion in any way affects your position with respect to the proposed move. Cheers! bd2412 T 04:35, 8 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your help straightening out the McGreavy surname page. The surname redirect pages are really confusing - when they point to just one person with that surname who isn't ubiquitously known by that surname, and then you add another person to Wikipedia with the same surname, it is very difficult to know how to handle it...but also very annoying to leave it as it is. I really appreciate your expert assistance. If I ever run into that again, I may either try to follow what you did (since I did not do it right) or come and ask you.TheBlinkster (talk) 17:05, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Request for undeletion

I was browsing a fish article, and came across the redirect Countercurrent heat exchange previously deleted by you, which should go to Countercurrent exchange. Would you be so kind as to undelete the redirect, since it can be useful? Note that the article sources use the term "countercurrent heat exchange." I'll pipe it for now. Mamyles (talk) 19:36, 16 May 2015 (UTC)


Hi, thanks for your recent note. I have a question for you (I'm not arguing, just curious) - who decides the primary topic and in the example given in MOS:DABPEOPLE why is John Adams more important than other John Adams listed? Regards Denisarona (talk) 04:22, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

Or another example = why is Paul George, an American basketball more notable than the others named Paul George? Regards Denisarona (talk) 06:13, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
There is no cast-iron rule for determining primary topic, per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. If Paul George shouldn't be the primary topic, then a WP:RM request with that as the rationale would be the way to go. You could also just move the article, but I advise not to since it would not be uncontroversial and will probably be reverted. —Xezbeth (talk) 07:06, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

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I want to ask you about the reason to revert my edits on tariq given name, without explanation.

while the most of titles in WikiProject Anthroponymy with (given name) to discriminate between (given name) artciles and artciles in "People Category"

for example: Milka (given name) Ada (name) Adam (given name) Adna (given name) Bodil (given name) Amin (name) Ayub (name) Adan (given name) Faqir (given name)

As example I can argue you surely about Tariq as Arabic given name category. so please could you recheck your moves.

thanks.. --محمد بوعلام عصامي *«Md.Boualam» (talk) 21:09, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

I have already linked the relevant information on your talk page. If you do not understand it, then you should not be moving articles around. —Xezbeth (talk) 05:51, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Indic surnames

Hi, the problem with category removals such as this is that many ethnic groups in India and Pakistan have their community name as a family name. It is certainly so in this case, although that does not exclude the possibility that the name is also used by people who are not members of the community. These are effectively clan systems. - Sitush (talk) 12:00, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

That's fine, and I usually leave the category alone on similar articles, but in this case Awan (surname) already exists, which I previously split from the dab page at Awan. It made the category particularly redundant at Awan (tribe), since the article makes no mention of any surnames and none of the listed individuals even use it. —Xezbeth (talk) 12:06, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't realise you had created a surname page. It all makes sense now, although we probably need dabhats. - Sitush (talk) 08:32, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

User talk:

You just blocked this IP. I've only just noticed the comment at the top of his TP. Hate speech, etc. Cheers. Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 15:00, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

(edit: it was this edit here) Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 15:01, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Since that edit was 95% of the page history, I've just deleted the whole thing and added a blocked message. —Xezbeth (talk) 15:06, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Bethel / Bethell

Good evening. I reverted your edit to Bethel which changed the see also link from Bethell (disambiguation) to plain Bethell without explanation. I then noticed I had created a red link, and found you had deleted Bethell (disambiguation) with the explanation that the target was not a dab page. It appears that it is a disambiguation page, ans lists of people with a common surname are a special case of disambiguation pages. I am choosing to consult rather than continue to undo your work in case I have missed something. Perhaps the link should be to Bethell (surname) ? --Scott Davis Talk 13:45, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

The surname Bethell is a pretty clear primary topic. The other entries are all partial title matches with the exception of Bethel Island, California. So putting that particular link in the see also section was wrong, but the ambiguity could be handled via a hatnote instead of a full disambiguation page. Lists of name-holders are not disambiguation pages but set index articles, which are a form of list. —Xezbeth (talk) 15:09, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

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Well what am I supposed to do when someone is insisting on wanting an anime article deleted?--BlackGaia02 (talkpage if you dare) (talk) 10:53, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
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Creation of anthroponymy articles

Hello, if I'm not mistaken, I've noticed you've been converting some dab pages to anthroponymy articles. Like you did here. I'm wondering what your motivation is for doing that, as, by converting them to anthroponymy articles, these topics are disappearing of the disambiguation watchlist, and editors erroneously linking to the name "Arredondo" will therefore no longer be corrected. And that's on top of Arredondo, as a single word, being primarily the name of a municipality, and not necessarily of a person. So unless there is a real requirement to create an anthroponymy article, I don't believe this should be a preferred course of action. Looking forward to your feedback, --Midas02 (talk) 18:23, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Surname lists are not disambiguation pages. In this instance I determined the surname to be the primary topic over the municipality. If there are only two ambiguous terms, like in this instance, then it can be dealt with via a hatnote instead of a dab page. The fact that we've "lost" a dab page is not important since Arredondo will probably never be linked to. —Xezbeth (talk) 19:58, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

DAB sorting

Hi. I noticed that you seem to be going through quite a few DAB pages and undoing the sorting done there. Could you explain what your reasoning is for this? -- Fyrael (talk) 05:09, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation#Mass sorting dabs. The vast majority of them were completely wrong and so mass reversion was warranted. —Xezbeth (talk) 06:19, 15 October 2015 (UTC)


Hi, I thought you might like to know that I have found out a little more about this user. He has used some other accounts, one of them is globally blocked after a pattern of disruption of the German and Alemannic and probably Dutch Wikipedias. More accounts can be found here and here. Apparently the German Wikipedia used to have an anti-alphabetic sorting edit filter for a while, just for him. See e.g. this. Probably de:User:MBq and de:User:Itti know more about this; if he starts again, we should probably talk to them. But he definitely is not related to Sheynhertz-Unbayg, who is Japanese, not German :) Best wishes, —Kusma (t·c) 18:04, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that, I now won't have to hesitate about indeffing any more accounts that pop up. —Xezbeth (talk) 08:03, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. As it's so duckish, I've make this explicit for all with a SPI to document & link them. Can't remember how the long-term abuse list works, so I'll leave it there. Widefox; talk 09:39, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
I have asked for a global lock of Sweepy. —Kusma (t·c) 10:25, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion of User:Hodgey323

Hi Xezbeth. I had removed a previous speedy tag from that page. Technically, it shouldn't have been tagged a second time and then deleted, but what's done is done, I guess. This user is one of a class of students from Berklee College of Music who are preparing to edit Wikipedia as a class assignment. As I explained to the first editor who had tagged it, they are all first time editors getting started by practicing on their user pages and I thought we should give them some leeway. I have also explained to Professor Jackson that the students need to keep these statements short and more focused on their future editing. Do you think you could restore the page, and the student can then remove the excessive autobiography while keeping their first effort in the history? If not, it's no big deal. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 06:24, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Done, I must have forgot to check the page history since I wouldn't have deleted if I had seen your edit. —Xezbeth (talk) 07:11, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
No problem and thanks so much for your help. I've now left notes on all the students' talk pages strongly suggesting that they promptly bring their user pages more into line with the guidelines. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:25, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you Xezbeth, for restoring my student's page. Voceditenore, our good angel as we call her, had in fact spoken with me. I'm afraid my students and I didn't have a realistic idea of how quickly things can happen. Gratefully yours, Ijmusic (talk) 13:01, 29 October 2015 (UTC
User talk:Xezbeth sections
Intro  Typo fixing  [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Ars_moriendi_| Ars moriendi ]]  [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Umi_Monogatari:_Anata_ga_Ite_Kureta_Koto_| Umi Monogatari: Anata ga Ite Kureta Koto ]]   Help Appreciated   Thanks   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_What_to_do_with_Tyciol's_redirects_| What to do with Tyciol's redirects ]]   Deleted Ropwu    Dog sex    Question for user   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Church_of_Reality_| Church of Reality ]]   'Albums considered the greatest ever' nominated for deletion    Chandarana Records    re: novero   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Baba_Mountain_| Baba Mountain ]]   Preference (economics)    Spelling fix    Steve White (Sailor)   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Next_(2006_film)_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion_| Next (2006 film) listed at Redirects for discussion ]]  [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_L98_Cadet_Rifle_| L98 Cadet Rifle ]]   Deletion of PeaceDayTV    Your additions to The Enough Moment    Your change to Upstream   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Kashmir_Observer_| Kashmir Observer ]]  [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Nomination_of_Live_at_the_Chapel_for_deletion_| Nomination of Live at the Chapel for deletion ]]   You left out one.   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=Merge_discussion_for__Spindle_(computer)_|Merge discussion for Spindle (computer) ]]   wilawan apinyapong    Gary Speed    MSU Interview   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Suspension_(punishment)_| Suspension (punishment) ]]   Your free 1-year HighBeam Research account is ready    Sankarea    Soil Warrior page deletion    A barnstar for you!    A barnstar for you!    Social is an adjective not a subject   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Nomination_of_Volya_for_deletion_| Nomination of Volya for deletion ]]   A dab that you created: Vasava   Recreation of Zappa's Universe  Disambiguation  Category:Robert Rich albums  Category:Lucero albums   Whoops!    What Blofeld said :-)    A barnstar for you!    Boothby    Revdel    Surname holder lists on dabs    I need a deleted article    Bey (surname)    Sheynhertz-Unbayg    A cupcake for you!   Discussion at Category_talk:American_novelists#RFC_or_not.3F   don't worry about it    Gamarra (surname)/hatnote    A barnstar for you!    Discussion about novelist categories    What do you mean by \"cat\"    Madeleine   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_About_Hawthorne_(surname)_| About Hawthorne (surname) ]]  [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Your_edits_to_Laurenti_| Your edits to Laurenti ]]   K\u00fcmmel   Request for comment   A barnstar for you!    Activated debates   Surnames   Tyler Minges   Discussion   External links    SU    Removing from article Hornsleth Village Project, 3 Categories    Removal of project tags    SU?    A barnstar for you!    Your recent visit to the Kitano \"Outrage Beyond\" Page    given name redirect    Double redirect    Link to    country WP tags    Your opinion and expertise would be greatly appreciated   Congratulations  Is dabsolver malfunctioning?   Blocking IP    Meteorite fall   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Georg_Friedrich_Haas_| Georg Friedrich Haas ]]   A barnstar   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_121.115.78.5_&ndash;_Suspected_Sheynhertz-Unbayg_edits_reverted_| &ndash; Suspected Sheynhertz-Unbayg edits reverted ]]  Just a question  Thank you   Re: Surnames    Moulton    Merry Christmas    List of months by year   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Category:Slave_owner_| Category:Slave owner ]]   Gamarras    Talk:Akins - adding class    Hey how are you?    Terror in Tokyo, and a barnstar    Richard Ramirez    Hello! Can you give me a deleted page or move the page?   May 2014 disambig contest: let's do it again!  Stravinsky  Surnames   Request for comment   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Thanks_for_deleting_Kinnear_(disambiguation)_-_request_input_for_related_discussion_| Thanks for deleting Kinnear (disambiguation) - request input for related discussion ]]   Capitalization of vernacular names corresponding to taxonomic names    Thanks    Source of \"Project Shrine Maiden\"    \"Unprintworthy page title\"    Inca hummingbirds   Talk:Free!#Should the article stay at its current title, or should it be moved back to Free! (anime)?  Talk:Free! (anime)#Comments after the move   Apologies    Hubble    Queen Mothers Gate   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Nomination_of_Jinsei_for_deletion_| Nomination of Jinsei for deletion ]]   Tennessee warbler    Attila as a proper noun    I really need help finding a deleted article that you deleted    Canvassing?    List of banned users MfD   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Ahmanson_| Ahmanson ]]  [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Turner_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion_| Turner listed at Redirects for discussion ]]   dewulf   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_About_Zsolt_Szil\u00e1gyi_| About Zsolt Szil\u00e1gyi ]]  [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_About_Yuri_Kuma_Arashi_| About Yuri Kuma Arashi ]]   Virk (disambiguation)    A barnstar for you!    Enjoy!    Redirects and categories    Cock o' the North   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Samever_| Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Samever ]]  [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=Houseman_(surname)|Houseman (surname)]]   Jitsu Wa Watashi Wa    Free t-shirt for placing in the January 2015 disambiguation contest    February 2015   Orphaned non-free image File:Hitch poster.JPG   Bryant Park   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=Recent_edit_to_Norgren|Recent edit to Norgren]]  [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Nomination_of_Voitka_for_deletion_| Nomination of Voitka for deletion ]]   The DAB page Alaverdian    Hatnotes and extra disambiguation    Miss Monochrome Reverted Edit   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=New_question_raised_regarding_Talk:Hillary_Rodham_Clinton/April_2015_move_request_|New question raised regarding Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton/April 2015 move request ]]   Thank you    Request for undeletion    Disambiguation    The Wikipedia Library needs you!   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_IIRC_(disambiguation)_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion_| IIRC (disambiguation) listed at Redirects for discussion ]]   Enquiry    Indic surnames   [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_User_talk:| User talk: ]]  [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Bethel_/_Bethell_| Bethel / Bethell ]]  [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=Storrs_(surname)|Storrs (surname)]]  [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_User:JAaron95_| User:JAaron95 ]]  Disambiguation link notification for September 25  [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=Otway_(surname)|Otway (surname)]]   Creation of anthroponymy articles    DAB sorting    Sweepy   Orphaned non-free image File:Mah\u014dka K\u014dk\u014d no Rett\u014dsei light novel volume 1 cover.jpg  [[User_talk:Xezbeth?section=_Speedy_deletion_of_User:Hodgey323_| Speedy deletion of User:Hodgey323 ]]  

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