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First day of the week Various anonymous IPs (probably the same person) keep trying to insert a claim, in this article and all the other days-of-week articles, that the Gregorian calendar specifies that Sunday is the first day of the week. I see nothing in the Gregorian calendar article to support this, indeed quite the opposite: the current article states that opinions vary over this matter. As far as I understand it, the Gregorian calendar specifies that today is Tuesday 11 September 2012 rather than some other date; it doesn't specify whether today is the second or third day of the week. If someone can provide a reliable source to prove I'm wrong then of course I'll change my position. -- Dr Greg  talk  12:51, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

The order of the days of the week are not mentioned in the original 1582 Gregorian calendar documents in Latin (bull, canons, and two calendars) because the Gregorian calendar is only a modification of the Julian calendar used by the Roman Catholic Church before 1582. So anything in the calendar that was not changed continued in use unchanged. However, the principal day of the week, called dies dominicus (Lord's Day, equivalent to Sunday) is mentioned repeatedly, but without its order relative to the other days of the week. The best source for the days of the week in the Julian/Gregorian calendar is De temporum ratione (On the reckoning of time) by Bede (725). Specifically, in Latin (Giles 1863 edtion): "Caput VIII: De hebdomada" or in English (Wallis 1999 edition): "Chapter 8: The week". Bede clearly stated that the Gentiles dedicated the first day of the week to the Sun, and he named the days of the ecclesiastical week (which had weekdays numbered from Sunday) as dies dominica (Lord's Day or Sunday), feria secunda (second weekday or Monday), feria tertia (third weekday or Tuesday), feria quarta (fourth weekday or Wednesday), feria quinta (fifth weekday or Thursday), feria sexta (sixth weekday or Friday), and sabbatum (Sabbath or Saturday) in Ecclesiastical Latin (See Names of the days of the week#Days numbered from Sunday). Bede stated that this usage orginated with Sylvester I, pope 314–335, but Wallis notes that other Church Fathers used it earlier.
Modern calendars are almost always displayed as grids of four or five weeks for each month, each week beginning with either Sunday or Monday. This is a recent technique that began in the mid-19th century as a result of the Industrial Revolution. All earlier calendars, including the calendars in the Latin Gregorian calendar documents, were displayed as 12 monthly columns of 28 to 31 days applicable to any year. The only indication of any weekday was the Dominical letter (A–G) beside each day of the month. The user had to consult a table to determine the Dominical letter for a specific year before he could determine the weekday of any date. — Joe Kress (talk) 23:09, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
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